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Monday, April 24, 2006

 

Mahiya ka naman, Mike

Mike Defensor was the outgoing chairperson of the National Union of Students of the Philippines (NUSP) when I was elected national president of the College Editors Guild of the Philippines (CEGP) in 1992. Since the 1960s, these two organizations have worked closely to uphold students’ rights and welfare, the NUSP being the umbrella organization of student councils and the CEGP being the national alliance of student publications.

I did not have the opportunity to work with Mike. My contemporaries were Dennis Cunanan and Sahlee Cariño who chaired the NUSP in 1992 and 1993, respectively. From what I heard, though, I gathered that despite Mike’s “chick boy” image, he was a committed and well-respected activist and student leader.

Mike has gone a long way since then.

Last, Saturday, he showed just how far he has stooped down from his days as an activist by fuming over Cavite State University student Maria Theresa Pangilinan’s gutsy act of heckling the President during her school’s graduation rites. He said Pangilinan’s protest was “done in poor taste.” He berated the Presidential Security Group for allowing such a breach in decorum. (Read Conrad de Quiros' article on Theresa at http://news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=73622&col=77)

So what did you want, Mike, that the PSG shoot down Pangilinan while she was shouting “Patalsikin si Gloria!”? Sus naman. Gawain din natin ‘yan nung estudyante pa tayo, di ba? Porke ba’t si GMA ang tinatamaan eh naging masama nang mag-protesta laban sa kabuktutan ng sistema?

Like Palace apologist Alex Magno, Mike prides himself in having shed his activism in order to uphold and protect the corrupt and oppressive system he riled against in the past. He is now GMA’s favorite errand boy, his good looks outclassing those of Norberto and Raul Gonzales’.

But who am I to judge Mike, right? He has his own million-and-one reasons for the 180-degree turnaround. I just hope they are the right reasons.

Ang masasabi ko lang, Mike, huwag mo namang itatwa ang mga bagay at prinsipyo na gumabay at nagpaunlad sa iyo bilang lider estudyante. I’m sure you owe Maria Theresa, the NUSP and the student movement more than that.

69 Comments:

Anonymous maginoo said...

I completely agree with you Teddy. Mixed feelings ako sa mga dating aktibista na turned into government people ngayon. Although I recognized na all of us ay may mga iba't ibang journeys na tinatahak sa buhay, kaya lang siguro, all of us have our inner values, principles/ethics na natutunan as we travel our lives. Si Alex Magno ay ka-kontemporaryo ko sa UP and together, kasama namin siyang mga aktibista sa lahat ng struggles during the turbulent years of the 70's sa UP campus. Marami sa aming mga aktibista noon sa UP ay umalis, nag-ft at tried ang iba't ibang forms of struggles, ang iba ay pumunta sa bundok. Pero sya ay naiwan sa UP at anong laking gulat namin na habang tumatanda siya ay kinuha niyang role ay batikusin ang buong nd movement samatalang sa aming lahat, siya ang nag-lead ng komportableng buhay. Ni hindi niya naranasan ang mamuhay kapiling ang mga manggagawa, ang mga magsasaka , ang malaman kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng sobrang kahirapan, ng feeling ng helplessness dahil sa sobrang pag-eexploit sa atin... pero ang lakas ng loob niyang sabihing obsolete na ang movement, etc...anyway, nawala lahat ang respeto namin sa kanya at ngayong matatanda na kami, I look at him na walang natutunan sa buhay...siguro kung nagpasya ka ng hindi maging bahagi ng movement ngayon, ang pinakamaganda mong gawin ay either sumuporta sa lahat ng nagpasya na patuloy na lumaban o kaya ay manahimik na lang...si Mike Defensor, nakikita ko na lang sa tv at pareho rin siya ni Alex Magno, na kinaing muli ang lahat ng sinuka nila noong panahon ng kanilang kabataan... natutuwa rin ako na sa ngayong henerasyon ng mga kabataan ay mayroong teresa pangilinan na who dared to confront directly si gma...naaalala namin si edgar jopson (edjop) noon na ganoon din ang ginawa, tinanong ng diretso si marcos at sinagot siya ni marcos ng "who are you to tell me what to do? you are only a son of a grocer?"

sa mga kabataan at yaong mga ksamang patuloy pang nakikibaka at aktibong bahagi ng kilusan, maraming salamat sa inyo at ipinapagpatuloy ninyo ang aming mga nasimulan noong dekada '70. kahit matatanda na kami ngayon at ang mga pisikal naming katawan ay mayroon ng karamdaman, ang diwa ng pakikipaglaban ay kapiling pa rin ninyo. siguro, hanggang mamamatay kami, hindi namin magagawang kaining muli ang aming isinuka noon, ni wala sa aming hinagap na maging bahagi ng sistemang siyang umaalipin at dahilan ng paghihirap ng sambayanang pilipino...babaunin namin sa aming hukay ang paniniwalang darating din ang araw na lalaya ang ating bayan...siguro para sa mga kabataan at mga bloggers, parang oa naman ako, pero ang mga thoughts na ito ay sinsero...

3:39 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

Ted,

That point is well taken.

It's a quandary that always bugs the mind, why people change their principles. The 180-degree turn you noticed is all related to this business of POWER.

How quickly people descend to atavism, once possessed by power. Jumping from one side of the fence to the other is like a slave metamorphosing into a slaver, or an oppressed becoming a tyrant.

This is explained by the familiar line, from British historian Lord Acton: "power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Idealism can fade away, once the taste of power becomes more temptatious. Since many mortals are insatiable, their Freudian innerself inreasingly asks for more. And more power becomes irresistible as it eats up the good side of the person, who eventually succumbs to his now weakened (or wicked) humanity.

Am learning from your story, and that of Maginoo.

4:13 AM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

Kanino ba tayo dapat magpaalam? Sa ST ba o sa YS? Gusto kong halikan yung bata na yun!

8:04 AM  
Anonymous carmencita of los angeles said...

dear friends,

please check out the article published in LA Times last week...talks about the overseas class (OFW)..., know it’s a story that we know all about, but still it’s always interesting to read about:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-remit20apr20,0,3918689.story

9:27 AM  
Anonymous carmencita of los angeles said...

after i forwarded this article to my friends, please read a very beautifully written reaction from one of our members here in los angeles...ang mga nakasaad dito ay galing sa puso ng isang kababayan...i asked her permission kung okay na i-share ang napakagandang sinulat niya na lahat ng mga nanay, kapatid at pilipinong nasa labas ng pilipinas ay makaka-relate... here it is:

dear cita,

i read the article myself, after my husband showed the paper to me.

di ako makatulog ng gabing iyon matapos ko itong mabasa. sari- sari ang aking nasasaloob. Muli kong naramdaman ang sarili kong karanasan sa pandarayuhan: matinding hirap dahil sa pagkakawalay sa mga anak, ang halos walang katapusang hakbang sa proseso ng legalisasyon ng status habang kanda kumahog na naghahanap ng trabaho dahil kung hindi ay mamamatay sa gutom ang mga anak; dito, ang alienation ng pagiging kayumanggi at hindi puti, dinoble ng diskriminasyon dahil sa pagkakaroon ng isang asawang itim, ang di maubos-ubos na luha kakabit ng pagiging estranghera at paghahanap ng makakaramay (andyan nga ang mga kapatid pero lugmok din sila sa pananagutan sa sariling pamilya at trabaho), ang lamig ng panahon at lamig ng pagsasama dala ng salungat na kultura – ma- asawa o ma- kasama sa trabaho at iba pang lugar.

isa ako sa mga milyong pinatalsik ng kahirapan ng bayan, walang nasa kundi ang pagbabago para sa sarili at pamilya; katawan ay parang kalabaw na isiningkaw para magsaka sa lupain ng iba, samantalang ang isip at puso ay nasa kabilang ibayo ng mundo, doo'y laging umaaligid, di kailanman makadapo.
kailan mabubuo ang basag basag kong sarili? sinong kamay ang pupulot sa pira piraso kong bahagi para malikom ang sarili, kung ang mismo kong mga kamay ay bigkis ng pananagutan sa pamilya at katawan ay gapos ng batas imigrasyon?

isa raw ako sa mga tinatawag na mga bagong bayani ng bansang pinas; bayaning tigib ng tapang at lakas ng loob pero, heto, tao pa ring nadadapa, nasusugatan, nagugumok. bayani dahil sa bilyong remittances para sa pamilya kaya naman halos walang perang matira para sa sarili.

pero ano ang katuturan ng kabayanihan kung ang bayani ay laging nakatanghod sa sariling bayan na gaya rin niya'y walang kalayaan - daklot ng ganid na iba - silang may sapot ng salapi at kapangyarihan, at tayo naman na biktima, papalag palag pero di makaalma?

kay dami kong tanong sa sarili, parang mga ulap na lumalambong sa isip. di ko mapigil ang umiyak, managhoy, tumangis; mangalaiti. hanggang dito na lamang ba ako? ano ang maaaring magawa bukod sa personal na ambisyon ng pagpapayaman, pagpapatapos ng mga anak, pagkakaroon ng bahay at kotse, paglalakbay sa europa at kung saan saan pa, pagpapakagaling sa propesyong napili?

ano pa ang maaaring maipayo sa kasamang dayong anak na ang buhay dito ay isa lamang yugto - yugto ng pag aayos ng sarili, ng pinansiya, ng pamilya, ng pagpapakadalubhasa - na ang dapat na isunod ay yaong yugto ukol sa pagbabalik sa bayang sinilangan at pagtulong sa kapwa?

pero paano tutulungan ang bayan kung karamihan sa kalahi'y hikahos at lugmok sa hirap at ang namamayaning sistema ay yaong pagpapaalis sa kanila para maisingkaw na mga kalabaw trabahador para sa iba, panay kayod at remittance lang ang magagawa?

sa panig nating mga overseas workers, ano ang sistemang maaring maitayo natin para ang mga perang pinadadala ay hindi lamang panggastos, kundi maging investment, mapalago, maging bagong pagkakaton, bagong trabaho?

may iba pa bang paraan bukod sa protesta sa kalsada kung saan maaaring maging organisado at positibo ang pagbabago sa pamamagitan ng pagsasama samang pag invest ng ating mga resources? maaari bang magtayo ng kooperatiba ng mga dayuhang manggagawa? credit o multi purpose?

itong lahat cita ang dumaan sa isip ko matapos mabasa ang artikulo. hindi ako mapakali. oo nga at alam ko ang kapangyarihan ng pagiging organisado, pagiging miyembro ng ating asosasyon ng mga manggagawang pilipino.. pero iisa lang ang katawan ko. nakakapagod ang trabaho. lalo na ang araw araw na pagharap sa isang mapanupil na sitwasyong pantrabaho. ang patang sarili ay sumisigaw ng pahinga. may kung anu anong dinarama. kailangang gampanan pa rin ang mga papel ng ina, asawa, kapatid, tiya, kaibigan, at kung anu ano pa.

ang kaso ko ay isa lamang sa mga milyong gaya natin. mas masahol pa nga ang iba, bayad nila ay buhay at karangalan. kay saklap at masakit. ang nangyayari sa kanila ay parang sa akin na rin. binibilang ko tuloy ang biyayang tinatamasa.

pansamantala, kahit nagpapasalamat sa biyaya, nanlumo ako sa isang balitang natanggap. may isang pilipinong doktor sa washington, naghahanda nang magretiro sa pilipinas. nagro rounds siya sa isang ospital nang bigla na lang siyang bumagsak - stroke ang dumale sa kanya. ngayon ay comatose at isa ng gulay. doktor siya sa lahat pero di niya napagamot ang sarili. kay lungkot.
di ba't angkop na halimbawa? gaya natin, tumutulong mag alaga sa dayuhang bansa, pero ang sariling bayan di maalagaan.

ganito lang ba ang kahihinatnan ng lahat ng paghihirap ng dayuhang manggagawa; na sa bandang huli ng buhay, siya ay magiging gulay?

naghahanap ng sagot,
ada

9:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me that Mike Defensor is a pragmatic man. He has an eye set on the price. The price for himself. He may still feel or even know that his position today is so oppose to his positions yesterday, but opportunity dictates: Is it better to be poor and straight or dirty rich?

Well, no matter what anyone may think, this guy is going to retire very very rich.

11:29 AM  
Anonymous melai said...

natutuwa ako at nabasa ko ang komento ni maginoo, nabasa ko lang yung book na edjop story noon , pero malinaw na malinaw ...parang buhay sa isip ko yung mga pangyayari habang binabasa ito ... malaki ang utang ng mga bagong henerasyon.. sa aktibismo noong dekada 70, taas kamay ko sa inyo.

Para kay Mike Defensor, baka naman ginamit niya lang ang organisasyon para may matutuhan at magagamit sa pagpasok sa pulitika,dahil kung tunay na siya ay lider na naghahangad ng pagbabago laban sa opresyon hinding hindi siya titindig para sa mga pulitikong corrupt, madaya at sakim sa kapangyarihan .... hindi siya palalamon sa sistema.

12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whenever I see Mike's face on TV, I think of him as a double-horned immature devil holding tight to the the tail of a senior and overgrown devil like Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

The first time I saw that Pangilinan girl on TV, I thought she would be a great President in the near future. Unfortunately, that would be impossible. People who get positions in the Philippine Government are those who eat people's dignity and money in whole.

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Lumad sa Mindanao said...

Looks like Mike D. is getting on top the fastest way.

Someone (forgot who wrote it) made a remark about him, making a parallel with Maceda as "so young and so corrupt."

From what I see on TV and in the news, seems like he wants to be at the center of attention. Well, he has succeeded in getting GMA's, little realizing that he has eclipsed the old farts around her. I can sense those oldies fuming each time they face the camera with their own props and ideas. What a comedy!

2:48 PM  
Blogger pinoy said...

isang lang ang masasabi ko.

POWER CORRUPTS.

It is power that corrupted Mike. It is power that corrupted GMA.

I agree with Ted on his observations. Bong Austero also has something to say about this incident. It's a good read at bongaustero.blogspot.com.

2:50 PM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

Every movement has some Mike or Alex who reached a crossroads and chose the way of capitulation. Before Mike and Alex, there was Boy Morales who squandered his talent for organization in giving ideological legitimation to the Estrada regime. And who can forget Elmer Mercado? But they come and go, perhaps one reason why it's called a movement.

We who chose to stay in the front can take consolation that the masses will persevere - they remain, collectively standing high above like an oak over these fleeting individuals. They provide the flesh that makes such movement an immovable fixture in time and space.

2:53 PM  
Anonymous Bong said...

Filipino politics just reminds you of bad diseases. Very stubborn and unforgiving. Daily protest really just choke up the economy and vultures of all likes are there to feast. It’s insane, does anyone really get their point across or everyone just happen to have their own agenda, either way whoever wins Philippines would still be a loser country. Why? You got the greenhorns that have smelled like the farm animal that he was raising, while protesting daily, need to look good and smell good. (Sic) Gee I wonder. Do I need a pin number for Central Bank of the Philippines or just pig out on my pork-barrel? This comes first since it’s always a tradition anyhow? The “me first” attitude is always in the minds of a neophyte politicians. And c’mon most politicians are actors and actresses and some did not even graduate elementary and need a translator for English is a little obnoxious and embarrassing. If Filipinos were white they’d be the daily butt of a joke on every English tabloid there is. The regular Joe who works his butt-off merely gets food for his family and lives on a $1-P50 budget!! Geez Louise!!! For the price of a candy bar a family of 4 will have their meal. Do you see a wrong picture here? While the big-fat-ugly-Rolex-wearing and Benz driving-buffoon politician will “roast a pig” and will pay homage to Lucifer. And people please it’s pathetic that Philippines is a Catholic country, everybody pretends to be holy but a good half of you all are summoning the devil to your side and reward yourself with gold and a big bank account. A saint would ask God for end of suffering while a politician would ask Lucifer if he could rig the Lotto and luck of the $$$$$$$$ would go his way. Don’t say that bad Filipinos are just humans like everyone else because I would just laugh as hard like a politician pillaging the coffers. People power only existed cause of the frequent black-outs in Manila and the mass was bored, and of course it was an excuse to commit debauchery to their fellow men and Hey!! There’s the media, maybe we could be rude enough and walk behind the reporter and moon the whole archipelago for people to see. I would tell my kids to stay away from “EDSA” if it happens again. Imagine loose cannons all over the place, got dirty written all over it, dirty-cops, dirty-politics, dirty-criminals, dirty-urinals etc.
After you get rid of one leader after the other, this should be the freaking big question “has it made your life any better?’ And one thing which bothers me most is that the Filipino dignity easily gets bought by politicians in order to get their agenda across. Just a shame they even have Barangay Captains to gather up the flock and do the headcount for the funds that these BC’s already got half of the original amount the politicians gave them. Too much grief is all I could say, is there a light at the end of the tunnel? Who Knows? We’d be 6 Feet under and the question still stands.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^
WoW!! that's a great post Bong.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

bong,

that's quite a deluge of words! I do hope you are not one of those who jeer at the Left for being "ngawa ng ngawa". But, really, just what is your point?

5:38 PM  
Anonymous Bong said...

My point is UNITY among all Filipinos for a good common cause, wouldn't you like to breath easier instead of being a lame a$$ country who's trying to figure out where the mass is going to have their next meal or the country defaulting on their national debt.People pray in the Philippines all the time but for What? I know you'll probably say it happens all over the world but hey Sh!t happens and pretty sure the Phippines is at the top of being the most corrupt country in the world. Ask around and you'll say that I'm right.Maybe you'll say "Tell me something we don't know" I might just as well tell you the most impossible thing that could happen to the Philippines "Maybe, God will strike a bolt of lightning loaded with random acts of kindness and change every devil concieving ideas of evil men" but it will never happens since the Philippines is already part of hell on earth.

5:59 PM  
Blogger Teddy Casiño said...

To Carmencita of LA,

I read the LA Times article and it really is heartbreaking. But after the tears, the next question to ask is, what can we do? How can we change the situation? Three choices: One, work within the system and try to improve it. Two, work outside the system, deconstruct it and build a better one. Three, do both. That's what we in Bayan Muna have done. We entered Congress with no illusions we could change it but we also maintained our presence in the parliament of the streets. Although now, the system wants to cough us out.

We've been brainstorming the idea of an OFW bank or credit cooperative or investment fund but in the end, what would be crucial would be government. Unfortunately, with the kind of government we have now, mahirap yatang isugal ang pera ng ating mga bayani. I would like to see the $10 billion worth of OFW remitances channeled to Philippine industry, for example. But the government does not appear to have a clear program for Philippine industry except to liberalize and deregulate it for the benefit of foreign investors. Same goes with agriculture.

In the final analysis, the government - especially the ruling elites and foreign interests that dominate it - has become the biggest stumbling block to our development as a country and a people. Kahit anong sipag at tiyaga ng ating mga kababayan sa loob at labas ng bansa, hanggat hindi natin nababago ang sistemang kontrolado at pinagsasasaan ng mga bwitreng ito, walang makabuluhang magaganap sa pangkalahatan. There are success stories, of course. But they pale in comparison to the tragedies that befall our people every single day.

With this in mind, we should still NOT lose hope. Our people will get it right sooner or later. Kaunting sipag, tiyaga at puspusang pakikibaka para sa kung ano ang totoo, tama at makatarungan sa lahat. Tayo'y magtatagumpay at magtatagumpay din.

6:19 PM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to teddy casino:

Kaunting sipag, tiyaga at puspusang pakikibaka para sa kung ano ang totoo, tama at makatarungan sa lahat. Tayo'y magtatagumpay at magtatagumpay din.

Mahigit tatlumpung taon nang sinisigaw yan. Ilang dekada pa bago yung sinasabing tagumpay?

6:43 PM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to bong:

I am with you on your call for UNITY. Instead of looking for a common ground, we take more time debating on issues we will never agree on. Once you challenge one group's course of action or point of view, you are automatically considered an enemy.

6:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huwag naman pong tawagin si Theresa na "bata." Isa po siyang matapang na BABAE, nasa wastong gulang at may sariling pag-iisip. Kung naging lalaki siya ay hindi po nating ipa-patronize na "bata." Medyo po naglalabasan ang ating pagka-macho.

10:30 PM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

to anonymous,

nagpuna po sa sarili. All of that was merely meant to show my admiration of the lady not anything macho which I'm definitely not.

12:29 AM  
Blogger ptz821 said...

Tama si Melai,

ang ibang mga dating aktibista sa kanyang punto ginagawa lang springboard para sa exposure sa national at paghahanda sa national position sa gubyerno.

Wala naman sanang masama kung gawing training ground ang NUSP or other national student centers, ang masama nito ang prinsipyong pinaglalaban at pamamaraan ng pakikibaka bilang aktibista ay sya mismong kinikitil kapag nakaupo na sa position ng gubyernong hiwalay sa pagtingin ng mamamayan.

Pagpupugay at palabang pagbati kay Ma. Teresa Pangilinan sa pagtayo at pagpapahayag sa damdamin ng kabataan. Muling pinatutunayan na ang kabataan ay hindi hiwalay at lumalaban kasama ng mamamayan.

Teddy,

How about buy back PETRON using OFW money? Buy back MWSS? Just for a start.

Re-established the National Development Corporation, put into it the mandate to pinpoint the vital industries that needs to be established and to be owned by the money from OFW's.

Ang mahirap lang dyan ang walang katapusang pagyuko ng ating gubyerno sa dikta ng IMF-WF sa pamamalakad ng ating ekonomiya.

Anyhow, tama ka na walang patutunguhan ang "sham" development na pinapangalandakan ng mga nagdaang administrasyon, lalo na ngayong sa panahon ng deregulasyon at privatization.

At any rate, we, the current generation of migrant workers would like to see that the seeds of our labor will bear fruit for a genuine industrialization that will put to stop the exodus of BRAWN, BRAIN (and lately), SPIRITUAL drain (I read an article about the migration of clergymen, priest and seminarians).

And I strongly believe that this will not happen unless a truly democratic, mass-oriented and scientific orientation of economy, culture and politics emerge.

1:01 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

As a fellow migrant, I'm with you Ptz.

I hate seeing this govt. driving its citizens to go abroad for the $$ that they remit back home. There is no end in sight to the pinoy diaspora if we have corrupt leaders like them. All these years, I have yet to see how this govt uses part of the money it gets from OFW remittances for the public good. The danger is, as Teddy puts it, you only give legitimacy to its corrupt ways if you entrust to them a noble project which is likely to turn into a "white elephant."

1:20 AM  
Blogger Kalovskionline said...

I was also a member of NUSP. As a matter of fact to this day I never reneged believing in the principles we have long been upholding. For sure, I already sensed long time ago Mike would come to a point he is now in. I have seen lots if Mike Defensor in the student movement. Some have not really transformed themselves, have opted to become mum on issues, some have help in their own ways and like Mike turned 180 degrees. In this case, Teddy, Mike is just purely opportunistic and no doubt you apporach him, he will be all talking about pragmatism and a lot more. -Kalovski Itim

4:19 AM  
Blogger Kalovskionline said...

I was also a member of NUSP. As a matter of fact to this day I never reneged believing in the principles we have long been upholding. For sure, I already sensed long time ago Mike would come to a point he is now in. I have seen lots if Mike Defensor in the student movement. Some have not really transformed themselves, have opted to become mum on issues, some have help in their own ways and like Mike turned 180 degrees. In this case, Teddy, Mike is just purely opportunistic and no doubt you apporach him, he will be all talking about pragmatism and a lot more. -Kalovski Itim

4:21 AM  
Anonymous Al P. Garcia said...

Dear Teddy;

Tama ka Kasama.

Bilang dating aktibista at lider estudyante noong FQS syenmpre saludo ako sa kababaihang matapang na nangahas na manindigan laban kay GMA.

Syempre ayon ako sa sinabi mo kay hinggil kay Mike. Una, wala talaga siyang galang o hiya. Pwede naman mgakakalaban pero di nawawala ang respeto sa isa't-isa di ba?

Kaya nga lang kapag ang mga tao nawawalan ng respeto sa sarili, bumababa ang paggalang sa sarili at syempre nadadamay na rin ang iba.

Noong araw-political officer namin si Booby Tiglao,syempre may respeto pa rin kami sa kanya kahit medyo sumaliwa na siya at gumitna pero noong kumanan na siya at naging tagapayo pa at nasging senior adviser na aktibong kumalaban paano mo pa ba rerespetuhin ang mga katulad nila Tiglao at Defensor.

Okay lang na maging mababa ang loob natin at magnanimous kahit hindi pa tayo nanalo ero dapat din nating unawain na nasa uri din nila na pangatawanan kung ano ang kanilang kinakampihan. Kaya tama ka Kasamang Teddy- dapat mahiya si Mike Defensor.

Sabi nga ng nanay ko na mahilig manood ng TFC: -"kaya pala defensor ang apelyido nito- defensor ni Gloria!"

O sige, kamusta na lang sa lahat mula dito sa L.A.

Mabuhay ka!

Alpie

6:01 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

Alpie,

Isang pagbati mula dito sa Honolulu.

On the lighter side of things, meron pang isang GMA "defensor," si Miriam. Nakalimutan yun ng nanay mo. hehehehe!

Tandang tanda ko pa nung napanood ko siya sa TV bago mag eleksiyon, halatang masyado siyang pro-Erap nun at anti-Gloria. Sabi niya na pakutya, "ano kaya kung ang maglaban as si pandak (FPJ) at si pandak (GMA)?" sabay bunghalit na nakaka-asar.

Ngayon, tila kapit-tuko din sa puwesto dahil sa cha-cha issue. But I give her more credibility than Mike because at least she is consistent in some of her views. She opposes cha-cha (she was a major actress in the Pirma and comelec ruling by SC in 1997), she is for freedom of speech, etc.

Am sure she will continue to make noise, when the High Court tackles the constitutionality of the current "people's initiative" and the patently biased stance of comelec to it. This will be another major blow on GMA's obsession for power.

6:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bong is da man! bong for president! - no pun intended :)

6:38 AM  
Anonymous Al P.Garcia said...

Okay ang sinabi mo Teddy.

Saludo kami kay Ma. Teresita Pangilinan. Dapat lang na sigawan si PGMA para matauhan. Mabuhay ang katapangan ng kababaihang ito.

Hinggil kay Mike, alipures na yan ni Bobby Tiglao, Nilo Tayag at iba pang mga taksil ng naging lider estudyante. tapat lang sila sa uring pinanggaliangan nila at walang paghuhubog sa kamalayan.

Tama rin ang sinabi mong dapat siyang mahiya. Ang mga taong nawalan na ng hiya sa sarili ay talagang mawawalan ng hiya sa iba. Pwede namang magkalaban pero may respeto pa rin.

Poor Taste? yan din ang sinabi ni Makoy kay Lean noong nagrarali sila- ang ingles daw ni Lean ay "inelegant."

Noong araw, PO namin si Bobby Tiglao sa University Belt, ngayon andyan na siya kay GMA. Ganyan din ang nangyari kay Mike. Unawain na lang natin kung naging walanghiya siya. Kaya dapat lang ang paalala ni Teddy- dapat siyang mahiya!

Salamat at magpakatatag!

Al ng L.A

9:00 AM  
Blogger ptz821 said...

Ang mga taksil sa student movement katulad ni Mike ay nararapat at wasto na tuligsain sa kanyang mga kataksilan sa prinsipyo ng kabataan sa paghahangad ng edukasyon, trabaho at karapatan. Walang syang karapatan na sabihin na mali ang ginawa ni Ma. Teresa, ang tinuturo kay Ma. teresa ng lipunan na kanyang kinabibilangan ay ang pagtayo sa prinsipyo ng katapatan, paggalang sa karapatan, at pakikipaglaban para sa kapakanan ng kabataan.

Ang mali sa araw ng graduation ni Ma. Teresa ay ang pag-imbita bilang guest speaker ng graduation ang pangulong salungat sa prinsipyo ng KATAPATAN, PAGGALANG SA KARAPATAN AT PAGSUSULONG NG KAPAKANAN ng KABATAAN at SAMBAYANAN.

Akoy naging bahagi rin ng NUSP sa taong 97, 98, 99. At kahit may sariling landas na akong tinatahak para sa kapakanang pansarili walang pagkakataong tinalikuran ko ang prinsiyo ng kabataan. Kahit sa munti kong paraan hanggang sa ngayon, pipinipilit ko pa ring maging bahagi at makapag ambag sa laban ng kabataan at sambayanan.

Mga Anak ng Bayan, LUMALABAN!
Migrante ng Bayan, LUMALABAN!

TUNAY, PALABAN MAKABAYAN!!!

12:06 PM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

Ang tindi ni Theresa sa Inquirer ngayon. She's not sorry daw. Fighting for truth and justice daw does not require certain places or events. At boring naman daw yung speech ni GMA dahil pangako na naman ng employment sa mga bagong graduates na wala namang naideliver.

Yan yang tunay na diwa ng NUSP. Shame on you Mike Defensor!

1:59 PM  
Anonymous Bong said...

The girl did it in poor taste. You graduated for crying out loud, She should've done something better with her life by just keeping her mouth shut, but NO that's what's on her head and it really became bigger than she was and she had to mouth off. 15-minutes of fame does not really extend to nothing.People in this blog should really help her out on How to raise a bail instead of screaming bloody murder all the time, just doesn't resolve anything by posting hurt words to whomever was responsible for her treatment.:)

5:05 PM  
Anonymous Bong said...

I guess people got bored of GMA's speech since she was only in it for the "FREE-FOOD,FREE-DRINKS,FREE-AIRTIME...." She could plug-in "I LUV U MIKE, TAKE IT EASY ON THE LOOT OK HUN!!"

Maybe next time GMA should order her all female(are they really gonna take a bullet when sh!t hits the fan) security detail(yikes) with their guns drawn at the crowd, this way she would not be mistaken for a waitress and telling the crowd What's the soup of the day.

5:27 PM  
Anonymous Bong said...

Hey a lap dog of GMA is more important than the hard working man.He probably needed to increase his ratings to the Head-Lap-Dog Mike....

5:38 PM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

I have all but pity for those young graduates. They now catch GMA's attention and the ire of Malacanang's lapdogs.

Am curious about what happens next. Are they receiving "sample lessons" para hindi pamarisan?

Poor kids. Wish people come to their aid, instead of heaping blame on them again for not helping the government, or for helping "destabilize" the government.

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kay johndoe:

ang pagka-macho po ay hindi lamang isang personal na kahinaan kundi isang sosyal na pagtingin sa kababaihan. paminsan-minsan po ay lumalabas pa rin kahit sa mga progresibong kalalakihan, dahil pare-pareho tayong narito sa bulok na sistema. maging mga babae ay may macho values; nakikita natin iyan sa mga nagtitiis kahit na tinatapakan na sila ng asawa, bf, pamilya. kaya po pangkalahatan ang puna ko. mabuhay po kayo sa inyong pagtanggi sa machismo.

10:24 PM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

Aray! Ikaw kasi Johndoe.

May punto din si anonymous. Pardon me, ha? Yun bang "machismo" eh pareho rin ng "sexist?" Ikalawa, yung macho values ba ng babae ay matatawag na isang self-assertion na kaya din nilang gawin ang gawain ng mga lalake, tulad ng thread dun sa "GMA has balls?" O meron kayong ibang haka-haka na naiiba?

Sori Miss (o Ms), nagtatanong lang po. Huwag masamain.

3:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mahiya ka rin Teddy and ilk!

6:11 AM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

Araaaaaaaaaaay!

Nakascore na naman ang Gab laban sa machismo! Mabuhay ang Gab! Mabuhay si Theresa!

Retreat muna ako sa corner para di ako mapansin ni anonymous.

7:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hawaiianguy,

Ayon sa aklat ni Gabriela, ang machismo ay social articulation ng sexism. Ang sexism ay yung aspeto ng pananaw na umiiral sa ating lipunan na nakabatay sa sexual na kaibhan ng lalake at babae. Batay sa kaibhan na ito, tinatakda ang magkaibang papel ng babae at lalake sa lipunan. Halimbawa, ang babae ay siyang hunted at ang lalake ang hunter. Kaya ang babae ay dapat game to the hunt. Magpa-cute. Magpa-coy. Magpasexy para mapansin siya ng hunter.

Ang pananaw na ito na nag-imposa ng relasyong sosyal sa pagitan ng babae at lalake. Halimbawa, kung napasakamay na sa hunter na lalake ang babaeng hunted, dapat paglingkuran niya ang hunter. Siya ang homemaker na dapat asikasohin ang needs and wants ng lalake. She washes the plate while the man is in the sala enjoying his favorite TV show. Natandaan mo yung sabi ni Marcos bakit hindi dapat iboto si Cory Aquino? Pangkusina lang daw si Cory which should tell you that such sexism extends to the corridors of political power.

Ayon sa papel niya sa relasyong sosyal na ito, dapat tiisin niya ang hunter kahit lasenggero, babaero, o nambubugbog. Ayon sa kontrata na nagseal sa tinakdang sosyal relasyon ng babae at lalake, "to love and to hold in joy and sorrow. . .till death do us part", kahit na maraming sorrow kay sa joy.

Isang major thread sa pananaw na ito ay ang pananaw na superior ang mga lalake sa babae, isang pananaw na nagdefine kung paano maging lalake - dapat macho. Dapat malaki ang abs, malaki ang biceps. Dapat malaki ang lahat. May kaakibat din itong sosyal na papel ng lalake na iniimposa sa mga babae. Dapat malaki din ang kanyang sweldo dahil siya ang provider. Dapat latest model ang sasakyan niya dahil weapons of the hunt yun. At kahit sa totoong buhay, mas malaki ang sweldo ni Mrs. de la Cruz, kailangang isustain niya ang myth na ang lalake ang provider. She must handmaid the myth that the male is the superior species (hindi lang superior sex).

Ang machismo ay binibigkas sa slogan na "the man must always be on top", sa kama man o sa lipunan.

Kaya, hayun may gender inequality tayo.

Mula sa isang failed hunter
(Ha ha ha!)

8:36 AM  
Anonymous g.i. joe said...

UP days... nakakamiss balikan ang mga panahong nakipaglaban kasama si Mike laban sa demolition sa mga squatters sa Balara, sa OPSF, sa US Bases at sa USC elections. Kelan lang nagkita kami nina Sahlee Carino and few samasa pipol, napagusapan din si Dennis Cunanan... tawanan. Ok lang din si Miro. Kaya lang kay Mike, wala na kami masabi pa... to quote you: "Mike...huwag mo namang itatwa ang mga bagay at prinsipyo na gumabay at nagpaunlad sa iyo bilang lider estudyante."

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Defensor, Bong Bongolan, Miro Quimbo and other SAMASA stalwarts of the past.

At least these people knew how to roll with the times.

These people did not get stuck in the "dark ages" like so many people we know.

7:41 PM  
Anonymous Stardust said...

Theresa Pangilinan?

Isang pulitiko na naman! Nag-ikot na sa BAYAN at dinalaw na si Ka Bel.

May hidden agenda itong si Pangilinan!

Itakwil ang Pulitiko! Itakwil si Pangilinan!

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

si original anonymous po ito. maganda po ang sinasabi ninyong lahat tungkol sa machismo at sexismo. pero mayroon po itong aspetong pang-ekonomiya at pangpulitika. Pang-ekonomiya po ay mas mababa ang halaga ng trabaho ng babae; at kadalasan ay nagiging commodity siya mismo. Kaya po 30% ng exported women ay sa sex trade napupunta. Pampulitika po ay karaniwan nang mas importante ang sabihin at gawin ng lalake, kahit po pareho rin sila nang katungkulan at sinasabi. Isa pong mithiin na maging pantay-pantay, babae man o lalake, sa poder at responsibilidad. Kasi po ay 700,000 na babae ang inexport noong nakaraang taon, kaunti lamang po ang nababagabag sa ganitong situwasyon. Salamat po.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Serves you all p.b. nusp right. Huwag dakilain dahil may pangalan dahil anak ng kung sino, kapatid ng kung sino, pinsan ng kung sino, inaanak ng kung sino. Dapat nga ay itong mga ganito ang pinakahuling bigyan ng pagkakataon sa pagkaliderato. Sa pagka-peyudal, ang dami tuloy na traidor.

12:33 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

To original anonymous (ayaw kasi magbigay kahit handle eh),

Ganda ng paliwanag mo sa machismo at sexism. Gusto ko yun. Tama ka, kunti lang ang nakapansin sa sexism.Higit sa lahat, lalong kulang ang action para mapatuwid ito tungo sa gender equality na sinabi mo.

Sa issue about violence against women, halimbawa, ang Pinas ay tila hindi pa nagising. Dalawa pa lang ang batas na nakita ko tungkol dito, ang pagbabawal sa tao/organisasyon na nagtutulak sa "mail order brides" at yung pinakahuli ay ang anti-women/child trafficking (AWCT).(Kaya lang yata naipasa ang AWCT Act ay dahil nahiya na rin ang mambabatas natin na panay ang puna ng international community dito.) Buti na lang andiyan ang Gab, at least marami silang ginagawa. Mabuhay kayo!

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hawaiianguy,

". . .yung macho values ba ng babae ay matatawag na isang self-assertion na kaya din nilang gawin ang gawain ng mga lalake,. . .?"

Ang macho values ng babae ay yung mga pananaw at values niya na nag-accept sa myth na superior species ang lalake. Makikita yan sa
mga sagot ng karamihang babae sa scrapbook item na "ano ang iyong ideal man?". Marami dyan sasagot na "tall, dark and handsome" o di ba kaya, "I want a man who will treat me like a woman or a princess or who will baby me". Parang innucuous na mga sagot pero bawat word ng sagot na yan loaded dahil may predetermined meaning na nakabatay sa social definition ano ang ideal man at ano naman ang ideal woman. May predetermined meaning na nagset ng kanilang magkaibang papel sa lipunan na nabanggit sa una kong post. Halimbawa, yung pagsabi ng babae na "I want a man who will treat me like a woman or baby me", nandyan yung acceptance niya na ang lalake ang provider at ang babae naman ang homemaker o baby maker, magtrabaho si lalake at si babae naman sa bahay lang magpalaki ng anak nila.

Nangyari na dahil sa feminist ideas na sumulpot noong huling bahagi ng 1960's, off-shoot ng civil rights movement na niyakap ng maraming kababaihan bilang equal rights movement (equal rights amendment o ERA kung tawagin sa Amerika), inaassert ng mga babae na kaya nilang gawin ang ginagawa ng mga lalake. Ang problema sa assertion na ito ay dinidefine ang "ano ang kayang gawin ng babae" according to "ano ang kayang gawin ng lalake". Woman's capabilities are thus defined according to the macho image prevailing in society, an idea that only unwittingly sustained the myth about men being the superior sex. This assertion has later in the day produced women like Condoleeza Rice who must act like a macho man, who must act like a hawk just like - in fact, more hawkish than - his macho counterparts in the Bush Cabinet in implementing imperialist US policies. She must act like a man who must browbeat other people and nations to be accepted as a woman who had transcended her so-called sexual frailties.

This should tell us that the search for gender equality is not about "what men can do, women can do better" for that reduces women's liberation into the "battle of the sexes". It is in fact about recognizing the real differences between men and women, differences which a class society like ours transformed into ideologies of male superiority.

tama ba ako anonymous?

7:29 AM  
Blogger the jester-in-exile said...

kalovski said,

"I have seen lots of Mike Defensors in the student movement. Some have not really transformed themselves, have opted to become mum on issues, some have helped in their own ways."

conversely, there are also those who, while students, had not opted to be part of the student movements as represented formally by the KM, CEGP, NUSP, et cetera, or informally by choosing to be involved in mass actions and protests against injustice in support of reforms, and chose to focus on their academic careers instead. there are those among these students, ofttimes derided by their activist peers as "apathetic," who, now are in the real world, have chosen to speak out for progress and reforms in this society.

just like mike d., people change. just as today's student activist can be the trapo of tomorrow, today's uncommitted student can become tomorrow's advocate for progress.

11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

si orig anonymous po ito. tama po kayo sa pagsasabing ang macho values of dominance -- within the context of personal relationships, politics, economics, etc. -- ay naiinternalize rin ng kababaihan. Sa lenguwahe ng mga feminists, ito'y internalizing oppression. huwag na huwag po nating kalilimutan na women were the first private property, kaya po napalalim ng oppression nila. thanks for the discussion. signing off na ho ako at marami pang trabaho. baka mahuli ako ng boss.

11:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous,

tama yung sabi mo hinggil sa feminist concept of "internalizing oppression". Pero mas gusto ko yung pagconceptualize ni Franz Fanon dyan although ginamit niya ito sa conteksto ng racial oppression ng mga itim sa kamay ng mga puti sa Africa. Sabi niya na ang most damaging na epekto ng pang-aapi ay yung kung ang inaapi ay gustong, in all aspects of individual and collective life, maging pareho ng nang-aapi sa kanya. Palitan lang natin ang race with sex and we have the same phenomenon at hand.

6:04 PM  
Anonymous johndoe said...

di ba may kasabihan sila jan na ginamit nilang justification ng kanilang pagsomersault from activism to sleeping with the enemey.

Sabi pa nila, "if you are twenty and you are not an activist, you don't have a heart. But if you get to be thirty and you are still an activist, you don't have a mind".

Kung totoo man yun o hindi, ang sagot ay makikita mismo sa pagkatao ni Mike ngayon. Sobra 30 na si Mike, to be exact 38, hindi na siya aktibista, and he is now cavorting with the forces of reaction, bakit wala pa rin siyang utak?

6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

si orig anonymous po ito kay anonymous2: bakit ayaw mo ng lenguahe ng mga kababaihan tungkol sa women's internationalization of oppression at gusto mo ang lenguahe ni Franz Fanon, isang lalaki, na tungkol naman sa pag-internalize ng colonial oppression at hindi tungkol sa kababaihan? Di ba may pagka-seksista ito? Oi, your slip or kamiseta is showing. huwag takpan ang sinasabi ng kababaihan ng sinasabi ng kalalakihan. ano ka? kaya hindi matapus-tapos itong argumento sa seksismo, kasi lulusut at lulusot ang pag walang bahala ng women's voices kahit paano.

12:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dagdag pa kay anonymous2: hindi pareho ang racial oppression sa women's oppression. may hawig pero may kaibahan. kaya ang study ni Fanon ay kulang pag ina-apply sa women's oppression. wala rito ang dimension ng the family as an exploitative and oppressing institution. o, may natutunan ka?

12:41 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

race and sex stand on similar ground. both have seemingly immutable, biological properties we are born into, rather than something we can easily change or modify, like social class. notions about difference and superiority, however, are all in the mind. it is what we think, or do, that matters.

what is "real" difference may not even be as real as what we think. we don't actually "see" race or sex, but we think about it and act on it according to that perception. one anecdotal evidence to this is offered by: "if people perceive things as real, they are real in their consequences."

perceiving difference happens all the time, because around us are gendered or racist institutions (religion, politics, economics, military, etc.) that sustain our conditioned beliefs.

liberating the "oppressed" sex (or race) makes sense. the world needs parity, if we are to live in it with dignity and freedom. how we translate that ideal to reality is the question. how we restructure our gendered and racist institutions will take time and effort. but the problem remains if, in the case of race, the oppressed mutates into the new oppressor and brutalizes others. i don't see that happening to the oppressed sex, because there is no polarization. however, some do it on their own to get even, or even prove that what men do, women can do better.

12:50 AM  
Blogger Kalovskionline said...

I was also a member of NUSP. As a matter of fact to this day I never reneged believing in the principles we have long been upholding. For sure, I already sensed long time ago Mike would come to a point he is now in. I have seen how Mike have handled things before in the student movement. and to this day I am not surprised. There are a number of student leaders before that have gone awry the same road that Mike had taken now. Some have become mum on issues or ahs taken the 180 degrees turn. This really part of the whole superficial handling of consolidation work before in the student movement that had really taken the toll among many.

In this case Mike is a typical example of this. His sense of jugement is twisted, purely opportunistic and no doubt when you approach this guy, he will bluntly tell you in the face that all he is doing is pragmatism. Nonetheless a short hand answer "I am having a good life now, I am getting what I want". But this for us is crap as this are all petty bourgeous rationalizing.


-Kalovski Itim

2:11 AM  
Anonymous maginoo said...

there are lot of mike defensors nad alex magnos in any liberation movements. sa tagal at lawak na inabot na ng movement natin, dapat ay nalagom na rin kung paano iha-handle ang ganitong mga once an activist and later, part of the reaction. ang masama pa, hindi lang bahagi kundi mga leader pa ng reactionary government/oppressive system na once ay nilabanan nila.

kaya nga ang unang comment ko rito ay mixed feelings ako sa kanila. lalo na kung ang mga ito ay nakasama mo sa hirap at ginhawa noong pare-pareho kayong mga full time sa movement. take the case of boy morales. matagal namin siyang nakasama sa hirap, especially after na nag-defect siya noong 1977. nakita namin kung paano niya sinikap na ma-remould ang sarili niya. noong ma-release siya sa kulungan after edsa 1986 at nagtayo na ng ibang mga insti's, we all thought na mas okay siya siguro sa ibang larangan ng pakikipaglaban, sa legal nga. pero noong naging bahagi na siya ng gobyerno ni erap, secretary ng agrarian reform pa ( ang dami namang pagpipilian, bakit ito pa?), medyo iba na ito. hindi na lamang taktika, kundi active leader/head na siya na nagsasamantala sa mga magsasaka. so para sa amin na nakasama niya ng isang panahon lalo na sa hirap, paano ba namin siya titingnan ngayon? mahal ko si boy bilang kaibigan at comrade-in-arms, pero ang hirap tanggapin na nasa kabilang bakod na siya...sabi ko sa sarili ko, sayang, sana nanahimik na lang siya o kaya ay silently nagtatrabaho para sa mga mamamayan...eh di sana hanggang ngayon ay nandoon pa rin ang respeto ko sa kanya...pero tulad na ng mga nasabi na ninyo sa blog na ito, ito ang realidad... we just have to accept that people will probably change 180 degrees mula sa mga dati nilang paniniwala/prinsipyo...ang mahalaga, hindi na siguro magamit pa ng mga mike defensors, alex magnos ang anumang movement na kanilang sasalihan para i-push lamang ang kanilang pansariling interes at ambisyon.."not in our name, or at our expense", ika nga....

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Paterno said...

Not all sexists are racists; but all racists are sexists, even to their own women. Goes to show how very basic to all oppressions women's oppression can be. In any case, I fail to see why a simple comment like "please don't call Theresa a child" should inspire so much comment. Unless of course we don't want women to have the last word.

7:39 AM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to maginoo:

mahirap ngang isipin na ang mga kasama at kakampi mo noon ay mga katunggali na ngayon.

sabi mo, sana nanahimik na lang sila. tulad ni Kumander Dante? nasaan na ba sya ngayon?

marami din ang kumalas at nagtayo ng sariling grupo dahil sa pagbabago ng pananaw. ang AKBAYAN at SANLAKAS ang magandang halimbawa nito. may lumalabas, may pumapasok. may namuna at may pinuna. may pinaslang at may namaslang. ang dating kakampi naging kalaban. ang dating kalaban naging kakampi. lahat ay nagbabago. ika nga, ang tanging permanente sa mundong ito ay pagbabago. pati ang anyo ng pakikibaka, nagbabago.

si mike at marami pang iba ay nagsipagbago.

sa patuloy na pag ikot ng pagbabago, di kaya kailangan na ring talikuran ang panawagan para sa armadong pakikibaka?

10:23 AM  
Blogger Teddy Casiño said...

To Pinoy,

I'll take your last post as an honest search for answers.

Marami na rin ang nagtatanong sa amin nito -- why don't we condemn the armed struggle? Why don't we assert the primacy of the parliamentary struggle of which we are now a part of?

Ang tingin ko d'yan ay simple lang. How can one condemn the armed struggle and render it obsolete considering the reality of systemic oppression, corruption and plunder staring us in the face everyday single day? Remember that the people's right to take up arms against an unjust social order is one of the basic tenets of a democratic system. Thomas Jefferson and the fathers of American democracy were crystal clear on this point. Aba'y tatalunin pa natin ang mga Kano n'yan. Talk about being more popish than the Pope.

I respect and would not have the impudence to condemn the armed struggles of the CPP-NPA, MNLF and MILF or, for that matter, the Katipunan, Hukbalahap and the various armed movements against colonial and national oppression. These mass movements are grounded on perfectly legitimate grievances that the ruling elites in this country have never seriously faced. I bet you, once the CPP-NPA, MNLF and MILF lay down their arms, they will be treated by the government with the same air of nonchalance as, say, the Women's Club of Libacao, Aklan, if you know where that is.

Rather than outright condemnation, I think the more logical and constructive approach would be to enggage these groups in political dialogue for a peaceful resolution of the armed conflict. This is what the peace process is all about, which is one of the main advocacies of Bayan Muna, especially Ka Satur who's "been there, done that" as far as peace talks are concerned. In recognition of this, Congress even elected Ka Satur as chair of the Committee on Peace, Unity and National Reconciliation. Kaya lang dahil sa stand niya sa impeachment, tinangalan siya ng chairmanship.

Anyway, this is why the existing peace accords already signed between the warring parties and government should be respected and implemented. In the CPP-NPA-NDF's case, they have an excellent human rights agreement with the government already signed by the principals of both parties. Kung ipapatupad lang ito it would humanize to a great degree the ongoing armed conflict. Sad to say, government refuses to implement the agreement kasi daw it will accord a status of belligerency to the rebels . Status of belligerency, 37-taon mong hindi malupig, hindi mo pa ba kikilalanin na belligerent force 'yan? Sus.

As to the NPA's alleged excesses and human rights violations, the said agreement would have provided a good mechanism for the investigation and resolution of these cases. But again, because the government refuses to implement the same, walang mapuntahan ang usaping ito kundi sa media at mga blog katulad nito.

Yun lang muna siguro. I have to start work on several bills I'm planning to file when Congress resumes session on May 15.

Happy labor day nga pala. Mabuhay ang uring manggagawa!

11:44 AM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to teddy casino:

i truly appreciate and am honored by your response.

You said,

How can one condemn the armed struggle and render it obsolete considering the reality of systemic oppression, corruption and plunder staring us in the face everyday single day?

I won't use the word condemn. Renounce may be more appropriate. You may say that your participation in the parliamentary is an act of renouncing armed struggle. The problem is not the armed struggle per se but the people behind it.

You are correct in saying that it is the people's right to take up arms against an unjust social order. My issue is on how the "masa" is being used in the arm struggle. Bonifacio is a masa so I have no problem with his revolution. But in the current conflict, it is not a masa led revolution. The masa was and is being instigated to take up arms. It is no their idea. Their leaders tell them that the armed struggle is the way but at the end of the day, it is all about their leader's way, not the masa's way. The masa is just being used as pawns, as foot soldiers and frontliners. See how they were used by pro Erap in the Malacanang siege many labor days ago? The same way how the masa is being used in the armed struggle. That is my issue with the current conflict. It is not a masa's revolution but a revolution of a few ideologues.

When you say,

enggage these groups in political dialogue for a peaceful resolution of the armed conflict,

what steps has your group taken in this direction?

On the status of belligerency, you are obviously saying that CPP-NPA-NDF deserves such a status, a co equal status. And your basis for saying that is the inability of the government to eradicate this movement in the last 37 years. How about the other point of view? The inability of the movement to achieve even a strategic stalemate in the last 37 years. Your argument mirrors where your sympathy lies. Which bring me back to my original issue. Renounce armed struggle. Instead of defending the underground group, dissociate yourselves, your group from it. I have not read nor heard of any criticisms directed towards the leadership of CPP. Are they God that they cannot be faulted?

I sincerely believe that BAYAN MUNA and company mean well and so do AKBAYAN and SANLAKAS. My only problem (not the pork barrel and I won't raise it here) is the division in the leftist movement. And that this division is the result of the split in the underground, rejectionist vs. reaffirmist. I hope this three groups can unite to make their presence in the political landscape be more relevant. Your group's renounciation of the armed struggle is a step towards this desired unity.

More power to you and your group. Para sa ikauunlad ng uring manggagawa!

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pinoy,

Can I participate in your dialogue with teddy? There are some insights I would like to put in hoping these would help in our search for answers.

“I won't use the word condemn. Renounce may be more appropriate. You may say that your participation in the parliamentary is an act of renouncing armed struggle. The problem is not the armed struggle per se but the people behind it.

You are correct in saying that it is the people's right to take up arms against an unjust social order.”

I can’t make out the logical coherence of your position asking BM and other ND party lists to renounce armed struggle. If we are to reduce your argument, it would run like this:

Premise 1: Armed struggle is good (in your words to teddy, “the problem is not armed struggle per se” and “you are correct in saying that it is the people’s right to take up arms against an unjust social order”.)

Premise 2: It is the leadership of the armed struggle that is bad (conceded here as a premise but not as statement of fact).

Conclusion: BM must renounce armed struggle.

Something just simply does not connect here, don’t you think?

That’s the logical disconnect. The other, the practical one, is that in your asking BM and other ND party lists to renounce armed struggle, you are actually treating them like they were armed organizations, had engaged in armed confrontation with the government and, having perhaps seen the light of the military’s black propaganda, must renounce armed struggle. Just like what the military inflicts on those so-called “surrenderees” to do. No, they are not. BM and other party lists are legal political parties which operate on the parliamentary arena. Being not ever engaged in armed struggle, they have nothing to renounce.

“My issue is on how the "masa" is being used in the arm struggle. Bonifacio is a masa so I have no problem with his revolution. But in the current conflict, it is not a masa led revolution. The masa was and is being instigated to take up arms. It is not their idea. Their leaders tell them that the armed struggle is the way but at the end of the day, it is all about their leader's way, not the masa's way. The masa is just being used as pawns, as foot soldiers and frontliners. See how they were used by pro Erap in the Malacanang siege many labor days ago?”

If as you say the armed struggle is a valid option for the masa in an unjust social order, what makes it wrong for other people to tell the masa to do just that – take up arms? Please treat that question as the rhetorical side of the issue. For here is the empirical (historical) side: the masa in this country have always taken up arms against exploitation and oppression even without those so-called “ideologues”. Think about those 200 or more revolts that exploded during Spanish colonial times even without the instigation of those “ideologues”. Think about those uprisings which spontaneously sprang from the bowels of the earth during the American occupation even without the instigation of those “ideologues”. Think about those peasant rebellions in the 1930’s which took to revolutionary violence before the old party entertained the idea of forming its own armed wing. In an unjust social order that perpetually generates pockets of armed uprisings, what should those “ideologies” do to synthesize those uprisings into one national movement so that, perhaps, such uprisings could assume greater chances of success? Leave the masa to their own fragmented and sporadic ways the better for reaction and counter-revolution to crush them with such ease?
For all we know, those “ideologues” may turn their back on armed struggle tomorrow but the masa will remain fighting because of the kind of society we have that spawns armed struggle as a valid option.

”On the status of belligerency, you are obviously saying that CPP-NPA-NDF deserves such a status, a co equal status. And your basis for saying that is the inability of the government to eradicate this movement in the last 37 years. How about the other point of view? The inability of the movement to achieve even a strategic stalemate in the last 37 years.”

Where it is written that the ability of a revolutionary movement to achieve SS is a criterion for granting belligerency status? Certainly, if there exists a good ground for denying the NDF of belligerency status, your last statement is not one of them. On the other hand, the “inability of the government to eradicate this movement in the last 37 years” is proof of an enduring ability of this movement to hold the allegiance of a substantial portion of the people which satisfies one criterion for the grant of belligerency status.

“Your argument mirrors where your sympathy lies.”

In the light of the killings of ND activists that escalate each day and about which Gloria does nothing, I just hope that with such statement, you’re not here trying to pin on teddy’s head some signboard that calls on the military to “kill this man!” They are reading this blog for sure and they must be amused at your posts that seem to tell the military where to aim their sights. You see, people could turn the table on you using the same statement of yours – that your argument mirrors where your sympathy lies. But I will not do that. For now, I will take stock of teddy’s estimation giving you the benefit of doubt about your questions being part of an honest search for answers.

12:58 AM  
Anonymous Sendara said...

But the Commandment is clear" "Thou Shalt Not Kill".

Hindi binigyan ng Diyos ng karapatang pumatay ang kahit sinong nilalang.

So BAWAL PO ANG ARMED STRUGGLE sa mata ng Diyos.

Ibig niyo ba sabihin ang Revolutionary Movement ay tinatanggal ninyo sa jurisdiction ng Diyos.

Sa oras na ginawa niyo iyan, hindi kayo magtatagumpay sa adhikain ninyo dahil hindi kayo suportado ng Diyos.

Kaya ang sigaw ng bayan ay clarong-claro: CONDEMN AND RENOUNCE THE ARMED STRUGGLE!

Fail to do that, hindi kayo kakampihan ng karamihan ng ating mamamayan na malakas ang kapit sa mga turo at utos ng Diyos.

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maganda umaga po Rev. Pat Robertson!

9:47 AM  
Blogger ptz821 said...

To Sendara:

Please enter your plea not to BM, AnakPawis or Gabriela, for they and their members are the one being erase from the face of the earth by means of armed violence.

10:55 AM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to anonymous:


first, i did not say that armed struggle is good. my statements should not be interpreted that way. all i am saying it is the masa's right to take up arms to fight oppression or an unjust social order. armed struggle is not good but is a necessary evil in certain conditions.

When I made mention that the leadership is bad, it is specifically directed to the CPP leadership living in a first world while comrades live in an almost primitive condition. at least ka roger has satellite phone.

My challenge to Teddy and his group is to dissociate themselves from the CPP leadership by renouncing armed struggle. Renounce JOMA and JALANDONI and company which is too hard for them to do. They, mass leaders, say that they are not in any way connected with the CPP. But that is as far as they can go. There is the rejectionist/reaffirmist divide in the underground left. this divide is very apparent on the above ground movement with the presence of three groups, BAYAN MUNA, AKBAYAN and SANLAKAS. Meaning, above ground division is merely a reflection of the split in the underground. Which leads one to conclude that the above ground and underground groups do operate together. therefore, BAYAN MUNA and company are indeed fronts of the underground left. in order to dispove this supposed alliance, I challenge BAYAN MUNA leaders to renounce the armed struggle and that "front" stigma may be erased. That BAYAN MUNA is sincerely and honestly participates in the parliamentary struggle and not just using this parliamentary struggle to advance other interests.

Since my participation in this blog, I have raised several times the issue of BAYAN MUNA, AKBAYAN and SANLAKAS divide. No one has taken up my challenge to discuss the division. And I know why. To discuss this division will eventually lead to the division in the underground. Therefore, one plus one equals two.

what makes it wrong for other people to tell the masa to do just that – take up arms?

it is called inciting to sedition/rebellion. why should you incite people? because the one who incites thinks he is better than the masa. what made him better? i dunno. maybe he has read more books and the masa is illiterate. my point is, let a "bonifacio" lead the revolution.

what should those “ideologies” do to synthesize those uprisings into one national movement so that, perhaps, such uprisings could assume greater chances of success?

Organize the masa. Form a federation, confederation. Form alliances, The open mass movements are experts in this. NOw if the masa wants to take up arms, let them lead the way. Let the ideologues support the masa if they want to but to incite them to rebellion, that I cannot agree with.

those “ideologues” may turn their back on armed struggle tomorrow

Exactly!!! Not just may, many of them have already turn their back. Where's Boy Morales now? This middle class inciters will always have something to fall back on, something to return to. Let the middle class/intellectuals engage themselves in their own revolution, a revolution which may eventually benefit the masa. But to incite the masa, that is unacceptable.

Where it is written that the ability of a revolutionary movement to achieve SS is a criterion for granting belligerency status?

Belligerency status is very subjective. Is the NPA capable of launching battalion size operations? My point essentially is, why raise the issue of belligerency? Why be sympathetic to the cause of the CPP to gain belliegerency status? Belligerency status is CPP/NPA's problem. Why should Teddy even raise this issue? His statement obviously points into the direction of his sympathy to the group. And they keep on denying to be communist fronts?

“inability of the government to eradicate this movement in the last 37 years”

as I said, that is just one point of view. the other point of view is the inability of the movement to even gain a strategic stalemate in the last 37 years.

That's 37 longs years. And what did ka Roger say in the news today? That he is inspired by the advance of the Maoist rebels in Nepal! Di na sya nahiya? Drawing inspiration from a kid (10 yrs old) while his movement is already an adult (37 yrs!) The Maoists in Nepal made their first attack in 1996, only ten years ago but the influence achieved by this group is far, far greater than whatever influence the NPA has gained in this country for the last 37 years. Now the CPP?NPA wants belliegerency status? Hello!!!

you’re not here trying to pin on teddy’s head some signboard that calls on the military to “kill this man!”

Far from it. The regime is trying to persecute them being the more vocal group against this administration. The government will try to fabricate all kinds of evidence to silence them. I believe they will not be silenced. And I hope the military will not do another Lean or Ka Bert for we don't need another hero. But the problem is, due to the left's division, the military can kill one of the mass leader and put the blame on the other opposing group. Who killed Ka Popoy by the way?

If these three groups will not iron out their differences, the leftist movement will go nowhere.

4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ang ganda ng article ni CDQ ngayon tungkol kay Theresa. May isa kasing letter-to-the-editor sender na nagsabing wala daw breeding si Theresa. Hayun sinabihan siya ni CDQ aanhin naman yang breeding breeding na yan kung wala kang character made out of courage.

9:45 PM  
Anonymous bobo the wiseman said...

well, he's at it again:

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=1&story_id=74798

treason or rebellion. haha. somebody tell this guy he needs legal advice. fast.

5:22 PM  
Blogger migrantengpinoy said...

To Pinoy and Sendara,

I assume you are serious in taking the issue of armed struggle seriously. First, the matter of renouncing the armed should be addressed to those who are actually engaged in it. Even here in the US not all of those who criticize Bush and co. on the war in Iraq are part of Al-Qaida.

From what I've read particularly from what Pinoy said, he questions the validity of armed struggle without explaining why it is no longer valid or justified. First you have to say why it is no longer valid. As to Sendara, of course we should not kill (by the way you should address that also the military which is fond of killing unarmed civilians), that's why there should also be no death penalty, right? Anyway, we don't live in an ideal world and just like the point I made to Pinoy, why is there so much killing?

Teddy said something about systemic oppression as the basic condition favoring armed struggle. I dare not expound on that. Pinoy and Sendara, I hope you get the chance to talk to a real NPA and engage in a dialogue with him/her on what prompted him/her to engage in armed struggle. I won't condemn anyone especially if I don't experience that which has driven one to take up arms.

There is armed struggle in the Philippines because the conditions for it are extremely favorable. Nobody would join the NPA if there is no systemic injustice and oppression. If the NPA is not there then another organization would take its place.

As for the NPA laying down its arms I don't know if you are aware of the story Squadron 99 of the HUKBALAHAP. The HUKBALAHAP was the most effective guerrilla unit that fought the Japanese in the Philippines during World War II. Most other guerrilla units did not intensify operations until late 1944, upon orders of Gen. McArthur, who was about to return. Well, enough of that.

Squadron 99 followed the directives of their leadership to turn in their arms at the nearest post of the Philippine Constabulary, as part of the agreement with then President Roxas. The understanding then was that the Philippine government would look into their grievances, i.e., those things that prompted them to take up arms. So they turned in their weapons. But what happened next? On their way home, now unarmed, they were waylaid by the Philippine Constabulary (now replaced by the PNP) and massacred.

A few days later, the body of peasant leader Juan Feleo was found floating on the river. The Philippine government then went on the offensive. the HUKs were forced to fight back.

Now with such a lesson from history, would it be easy to expect the NPA to surrender?

The armed struggle persists because the reasons for its being remains. That's why there are peace talks the aim of which is to address the very causes of rebellion. But being the stronger party the Philippine government, regardless of administrations, feels it can still squelch the armed struggle. Unfortunately it seems that only when the other side becomes stronger do the people in power seriously consider peace talks. There are precedents in the Philippines already.

The Marcos regime was forced to negotiate with the Moro National Liberation Front because its losses in the battlefield were hurting the economy. In case you don't know it yet, there were instances in which whole companies of the AFP were being wiped out. Then Erap Estrada, after junkinng the peace talks with the NDF, sought to revive it at the time it was reeling from its war with the MILF.

Now the point is why wait for things to get worse? To address the root causes of the armed struggle one must take a look at the main objectives of the NDF, which is the united front organization which includes the CPP-NPA. Those goals are there because they are not reality yet. Anyway, Pinoy and Sendara, why not visit their website and see what their program is?

Armed struggle has two sides, and you have to approach both and not just one. If not then there is truth to what the late Pres. John F. Kennedy said that "those who make peaceful revolution impossible makes violent revolution inevitable." Mind you, he was referring to the oppressor and not the oppressed.

4:12 AM  
Blogger Hawaiianguy said...

I like that Kennedy line. But resort to armed conflict must be the last strategy to bring about change if all peaceful alternatives have been tried.

Many people are led to believe that redressing their grievances by armed means are the only alternative in a system that they perceive is "closed" or indifferent to their plight. Thus far, our history tells us that this is how the masses tend to get their message across. The little revolts (Basi, Dagohoy, Diego Silang, Pulahanes, MNLF/MILF, etc.) were all directed to the regimes and their agents that dispensed authority for the few, but applied coercion to the many.

The question that remains, I believe, is this: what does it take to bring about peaceful change? Renouncing violence by one party alone is definitely not the answer, esp. if the party in power spins the language of force and intidimation rather than legitimate authority to elicit obedience. Those who genuinely believe in peace and change, take side with the oppressed and speak openly against the evils of oppression and injustice, but are not themselves engaged in violent struggle have nothing to renounce.

5:23 AM  
Blogger pinoy said...

to migrantengpinoy:

I assume you are serious in taking the issue of armed struggle seriously.

I really am but unfortunately I cannot keep up with the discussion. Usually, my posts are left hanging/awaiting response. Like this one. It is again another entity responding to my issue.

First, the matter of renouncing the armed should be addressed to those who are actually engaged in it.

I am addressing my issue to the "perceived fronts" of those engaged in the armed struggle. As I kept saying, and no one has given me a good explanation, if Bayan Muna is not a front, then why is it that the rift in the underground is reflected on the open mass movement (AKBAYAN and SANLAKAS)?

he questions the validity of armed struggle without explaining why it is no longer valid or justified.

I never said that the armed struggle is no longer valid or justified. All I said was it is wrong to incite the masses to rebellion. Let them decide for themselves if they truly want to take up arms and not by sending KABATAANG MAKABAYAN college recruits to the countryside explaining to the masses the need for an armed struggle. I even said it is a necessary evil.

Teddy said something about systemic oppression as the basic condition favoring armed struggle.

I agree with Teddy on that. I question the leadership. This is a JOMA-intellectual led revolution. He lives in comfort while the foot soldiers suffer in primitive conditions in the mountain guerilla base. Grsnting for the sake of discussion that the revolution succeeds, do you think it will be a masa led party?

to talk to a real NPA

I've done that during my KM days. Who is the "real" NPA? Is it the former student who was very active in the mass protests or is it the farmer who was convinced by the student that the farmer has to take the path of armed struggle?

If the NPA is not there then another organization would take its place.

So be it for as long as they are legitimately oppressed. Those truly oppressed by the system and not those simply romantacizing the concept of revolution heard from a teach in in school.


The armed struggle persists because the reasons for its being remains.

Where is the SHINING PATH today?

why not visit their website and see what their program is?

I did (http://home.wanadoo.nl/ndf/index.html) and what did i find, three Birthday greetings to comrade Kim Jong IL!!! What's the big deal about his birthday???? It appears that the NDF is trying to make sipsip to Kim Jong Il for whatever support they can get from him. Never mind the widesrpead hunger in North Korea as reported by media. There were no such greetings in 2005 and 2004 but in 2006, NDF made 3 greetings??!!

"those who make peaceful revolution impossible makes violent revolution inevitable."

those who incite people to take the path of a violent revolution must be at the frontlines to lead the revolution.

3:53 PM  

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